They Will Not Be Persuaded...
How often do we ponder the idea that if we could only find the right string of words, truths and historical accuracies to put together about God, then we would be able to convince even the greatest skeptics of the absolute certainty of His existence?
I was reading the Gospel of Luke (16:19-31) and was quite amazed by the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. The story is simple, and it's one that is often used to provide proof of both heaven and hell.
In this parable, Lazarus is a poor man who sits outside the gates of a rich man's home waiting and begging for scraps. He is covered with sores on his body that the dogs would lick and he was in desperate need. The rich man on the other hand had everything that anyone could ask for. He had power, glamour and glory. He had an abundance of fancy clothes and was not in need for anything...Well almost anything.
The story goes on to talk about how after both men had passed on, they found themselves in two very different places. Lazarus was in heaven and the rich man in hell. It is quite an interesting story if I might say so myself.
Anyway, I was mainly caught up on v. 31 where father Abraham is conversing with the Rich Man and in response to a favor from him says the following:
"if they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone raises from the dead"
So what can we take from this? What is Jesus telling us in this story?
I can't tell you how many arguments (friendly debates of course) I have gotten into with atheists who have attempted to convince me that they would gladly believe in God if only he would produce just one miracle that would reveal himself to them. But scripture tells us something quite different. Jesus was speaking directly to the Pharisees whom he knew would plot his very death. And he also foreknew that he would be crucified on a cross and rise from the dead 3-days later and yet they would find excuses to explain naturally why he was no longer in his tomb.
Unbelief is a moral problem not an intellectual one. You can use as much wit, charm, proof, and intellectual arguments as you want to try and convince someone of the existence of God, but until their heart is melted by the power and truth of the scripture they will not be changed.
It is the power of the Word of God alone that changes a heart, and only through the revealed Word of God can 'unbelief' be changed into a true faith in God.
So don't waste time with foolish arguments or debates. Christian Apologists are wonderful and important, but we must stand firm on what the scriptures tell us is true. Preach the Word, and pray that the Holy Spirit will open the eyes of the unsaved to the truth and beauty of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
For His Glory.
4 Comments:
Let me get this straight. Religious authority comes from Scripture, and the traditions, doctrines, and interpretations of man have no authority. If that is true then where is the logical consistency? What determines the content of scripture? To the best of my knowledge the determination of what the sacred writings make up the Bible is entirely based on church tradition, doctrine, and politics. The early fourth century say many revisions to the bible by various Popes, entire books were removed.
To an atheist like me Scripture lacks authority. I cannot trust that it is something greater than man made. I will agree that some scripture may provide a moral lesson to anyone regardless of theistic preference but I can say the same for many other texts.
I suppose I prove your point by saying this. I am another skeptical atheist who would be willing to reassess my position given something (I don't know what) that could convince me.
"Unbelief is a moral problem not an intellectual one. You can use as much wit, charm, proof, and intellectual arguments as you want to try and convince someone of the existence of God, but until their heart is melted by the power and truth of the scripture they will not be changed."
I fail to see how this shows unbelief is a moral issue versus an intellectual one.
I am an obedient and loving daughter, dependable friend, loyal wife, good student, I give to charity, look for the best in others, vote, care about the environment, and it hurts me to see others in pain and I do what I can to alleviate said pain. All in all, I consider myself to be a very good and moral person. I just happen to not believe in God. This is an intellectual, not moral, decision on my behalf. I don't believe there is a God who tells me to do these things, I do them because they are the right things to do.
Could you please explain how my unbelief is a moral, not intellectual, issue?
@ Sara
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Could you please explain how my unbelief is a moral, not intellectual, issue?
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To answer this question I go right next door, in scripture, to (Luke 16:15) which I think explains very well, the point I am trying to make.
Humans judge themselves (and their actions) based on the moral standard which we have created. What we deem “good” is good and what we deem “bad” is bad. We have set our own standard for “righteousness” and in a humanistic sense, it becomes our moral standard.
You said you are an obedient and loving daughter, dependable friend, loyal wife, good student, you give to charity, look for the best in others, vote, care about the environment…” It is understood by most people, that these are examples of things we have determined to be good. It is also understood by most people that actions like rape, child pornography, murder, and theft… are examples of things that we consider evil.
Now comes the big question…Who’s standard for good and evil matters?
The Bible shows us, through the Ten Commandments, that God has a moral standard as well. And even though by the world’s standards you may be able to say “all in all, I consider myself to be a very good and moral person” this is only by your own standard (or your society) and not the moral standard of God.
The Bible tells us that God judges us by our heart, and (Jeremiah 17:9) tells us about the true condition of our heart. As much as we try to do the “right” thing, we are all sinners, we have all broken God’s moral standards, and therefore we all fall short of His glory (Romans 3:23).
For that reason, faith in God and His Holy standard is truly not an intellectual issue at all. It is a moral issue, and the only question that we need to ask ourselves is, in what are we going to choose to believe?
I hope this has shed a little more light on the point I was attempting to make.
BTW: I really like the move SNATCH too….Do you like dags? Oh, you mean dogs…Sure I like dags!
For His Glory,
Jason
@ hoverfrog:
I can't argue that your points are valid. I can only say that whatever we "choose" to believe in ultimatly requires our faith...
Thank you for the wonderful discussion on this subject, and for the challenges you have brought along with it. What good is faith in anything if it can't stand up to scrutiny? It has truly been a blessing conversing with you.
Here's to many more in the future,
Jason
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